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I stated I had been here for quite awhile. Can the Phooey who doesn't post in this font tell me what famous basketball player had their post censored here a long time ago? What did the post say? (You won't find it in the archives). How about the name of the free book offered by the 18 yr old? What was it that Les did for an entire weekend? These are things only someone who has been around a long time would know, or even know to ask. It's flattering that you want to emulate me. I guess saying something against your idol really strikes a nerve. Why are you so attached? If everyone starts posting as someone else, this forum will be rendered useless. Is that what you want? Is that how far you would go to deny an opposing view?

Let go of night, embrace the light, love's peace you hide in there.

When we connect as one with our Self then we realise it as energy. Energy that can merge with another. I mean literally merge with their energy. This experience is sheer ecstasy. This is a natural high. The most natural. Without image, without conditioning. But rare to achieve. Once you do you never look back. For in that merging with the other, is the actual merging with the Self. Your Self. The other serves as a divine mirror. You are energy. Not body. This energy is not bound. It is free flowing. It is Love. The Spirit of Love. The energy of Love.

But just to make sure that you know that this post is me, (Okay, Les--is I), I will mention some things that will strike a chord with some of the individuals here.

mb--man in white "wimp" camping
karen--Greece
Beth--a red roof
Dolores---Mitsubishi whales
Barry--the Smiling Cow (or Galloways if you prefer)
Doc Joe--Buddy B. in Nashville
Les--a canal of ice
Jan--J.K. in May
TerryO.--Teacher, only the tip of my nose?
Kitty--potential security risk?
Kim--the "blue" restaurant
Lisa--your dear email on Friday morning
Cam--Bring change for that coke machine in Tennessee!
Janejoy--The answer is simple and found in a pink book with a ribbon
Ging--prayers around the Earth
Ageless--words spoken and written in India.
Maggie--How about if I send a pumpkin for Neko?
Colette: You asked me to relay a message, then changed your mind.
Chris V. -- East is East and West is West
And to my new friend Chris, try writing that letter.
Dave--We disagreed but we did it relatively peacefully. Also, just for the record, notice the punctuation error. It's not that I don't make them. :) It's that I spotted it.

There were names that I did leave off because we have not had much personal correspondence--Scott, Bill, Tom G. Finally, as I was making out this list, and I came to each name, my thought was: "This person knows me well enough to know that I did not post that. And my list was long. And I know that you know me. You know my problems well, but viciousness is not one of them.

I don't think it was Phooey, either.

Finally, I recommend doing what I have just done the next time you feel a little down. It has been a nostalgic exercise for me and a blessing that I did not expect when I began writing. Maybe you are right, Jeff. Merriment, peacefulness, and light...

Terry innocence means purity. It was a high compliment you cute dolt!

The Lake Isle of Innisfree

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.

And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.

I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.

--W. B. Yeats

bEaUtY iS iN tHe EyE oF tHe bEhOlDeR

I HATE quotations. Tell me what you KNOW.

Anything we want can be aquired through DETACHMENT, because detachment is based on the unquestioning belief in the power of our true Self.
To attach to money, people, jobs, places or things is a sign of insecurity. UNCERTAINTY is our path to freedom.

The search for SECURITY is an illusion.

If I truly wanted to share "the most important experience of my life" (as Deepak refers to meditation) with others, you would think I'd follow my own advice on the laws of giving and receiving and make it available to more than one half of one percent of the population. Someone, maybe Colette, remarked that Deepak could easily pack it in and retire instead of making money. Wake up and smell the coffee!! (thanks for that phrase Peggy!) It's easy to make money for a living. It's harder to let go and "retire" like Chris did. Those who really know the Truth, don't have to advertise and charge money for it (Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama come to mind), people just naturally seek them out.

Immortality, freedom from illness, fulfillment of all of my desires....gotta have it, I really gotta have it! Gimme!

Click on these links, then decide for yourself! But beware, you won't see a lot of flowery phrases or hear any smooth talking voices...not that that would influence you.

The Seven Critical Questions About Deepak Chopra
Quantum Quackery

" True expression of non-violence is compassion"
Compassion compels us to reach out to all living beings, including our so-called enemies, those people who upset or hurt us. Irrespective of what they do to you, if you remember that all beings like you are only trying to be happy, you will find it much easier to develop compassion to-wards them. Usually your sense of compassion is limited and biased. We extend such feelings only towards our family and friends or those who are helpful to us. People we perceive as enemies and others to who we are indifferent are excluded from our concern. That is not genuine compassion. True compassion is universal in scope. It is accompanied by a feeling of responsibility. To act altruistically, concerned only for the welfare of others, with no selfish or ulterior motives, is to affirm a sense of universal responsibility."

And by beautiful I mean, to give a visual example, this is what I'll be seeing as I'm out running errands and gardening:
Pike's Peak

It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.

Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.

(There's a lot more where these came from. Check it out.)

Namaste("I salute and pay homage to that place inside of you. Which is the same as that place inside of me")

Namaste(I bow to the divine in you which is the same in me)

It will be noon in less than 2 hours. It was noon less than two hours ago. In India it is almost midnight tonight. The thought of how the world participating in this noon focus, thier time would cause a constant flow of love and energy around the world is MAGNIFICENT.

The 9th quality of the Unified Field(God,Spirit,Pure Conciousness) is UNBOUNDED. To see this noon focus this way makes it boundlessly flowing all the time.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.............
Namaste

We are where our attention takes us. If we attend to foolishness and negativity then we are foolishness and negativity.
NAMASTE

Jan, thank you so much for your posts. Thanks to all our bumblebees, past and present: Kev, Anony, Phooey, and more. I've enjoyed discussions about who we are, where we're going, and how our experiences relate to each others' life experiences, all of which have certainly helped me when I needed the human exchange. I've enjoyed warmth and friendship and humor.

However, I can no longer enjoy the forum with daily lectures on how to be Spiritually Correct and personal diatribes about forum participants. Since this is a personal opinion of mine, then my personal action is to take a break and say, "Thanks. I'll see you in another time and space."

FRIDAY: Practice the law of Detachment
*Detached Involvement*Wisdom of Uncertainty*Infinite Possibilities

Creating World Harmony begins with You & Me

Namaste--11:36pm MST

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUBMISSION

And as for our discussion earlier this evening about what I would inscribe, how about this:

PARDON MY SHORTCOMINGS

Think it would look nice in needlepoint?

mb: "Nothing" impresses me.

Well, except for Deepak's marketing skills maybe...and your relentless attempts to impress.

Anonymous: Stick and stones... Did your post "contribute something worthwhile" to this forum? If your answer is yes, then I take full credit. If your answer is no, then why bother?

Silvia: Get a grip!

A panda walks into a restaurant, sits down and orders a sandwich. He eats the sandwich, pulls out a gun and shoots the waiter. As the panda stands up to go, the manager shouts, "Hey! Where are you going? You just shot my waiter and you didn't pay for your sandwich?" The panda yells back at the manager, "Hey man, I'm a PANDA! Look it up!"
The manager opens his dictionary and sees the following definition for panda: "A tree-dwelling bearlike animal of Asian origin, characterized by distinct black and white color. Eats shoots and leaves."

Namaste

hmmmmm.....i absolutely know that the laws of intention and desire work with little effort in my life when i am not blindly chasing my tail. I see it at work every day, at every moment in my life. it is like sounds in harmony rather than dissonance. The closer that i am to the source of creativity, the easier to manifest that which is desired. Not because anyone says so, but because it is true for me, in my life. Now i know, without a doubt, i will always have all that i need, and i will not have to struggle to insure my well being. This lack of resistance alone makes it easier for what is needed to find it's way to me. I am watching something unfold right now, that started with a mere thought. i stood back and watched it grow to it's completeness with minimal effort and detached involvement. Would this have happened if my mind was so noisy that i never hear silence? i dont know. i dont think that i would recognize the opportunities that find their way to me. Why does Deepak offer some powerful insights to being in control of wahat we create in life? i dont think it's for money. If i was rich, and knew what the lottery numbers were going to be, and saw that you really needed some extra help to make your life easier and more enjoyable, i would tell you. As far as releasing a desire into the gap, or not releasing into the gap, when do we not? What causes the motivation to take to any action, or invole memory? Where is this memory? What is that which sustains life right now, in every moment. Is there anything void of "the gap". If i do not see it, that doesn't mean it's not there, it could just mean that maybe i should open my eyes. Most of the day passed by unnoticed. i can stop at anytime and see, nothing blocks my view.

Your Phooiness, what impresses you? i'd really like to hear. It is probably incredible. "Not impressed"...i dont buy it. i hope not. i hope there is something which fills your day with joy, and meaning in your life. Share if you would, it would be a wonderful gift.

"The ego part of our mind acts like a curtain
of fear and guilt which blocks out love.
We can learn to direct our mind to open the curtain
and reveal the light of Love

May the sweet nectar of your own sweet souls nourish and protect you today dear friends. that has always been there and remains our true reality.

In becoming there is danger: there is fear.

In being, there is none of this at all.

You blossom, you burn for the sake of love.

What is there to live for, except one thing:

To be the love from which God has created us.

It is a gift from God,

Not given as something separate from Him,

But his very soul."

"The lurk of love is in your eyes."

"I'm lurking over a four-leaf clover."

"Whistle while you lurk."

"But that lurky ole sun ain't got nuthin' to do, but roll around heaven all day."

Phooey--NOT!: Has anyone answered your question yet? I've heard people repeat their beliefs and defend their beliefs but I haven't heard anyone answer what causes them to believe and why they are so sure of their beliefs. Wait, I did hear a couple people say it's because Deepak tells them what they want to hear (i.e. my experiences were validated, I felt excited he had similar thoughts as mine). Gotta love that savvy marketing, eh?

Kate: Your welcome!

"Remember friends, as you pass by,
As you are now, so once was I.

As I am now, so you must be,
Prepare yourself to follow me."....Ram Dass

Just bringing some "cheer" to the Groupees'.
Namaste'

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
As I was falling asleep listening to Anthony Robbins explain the different type personality responses he said that the only way to effectively communicate with each different type is to use emotional leverage that they find appealing,in other words on their turf.Feel free to oppose anything I write and thanks for reading my posts.Love at ch'ya

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Kate (kgast@indiana) said:
BTW, I didn't perceive the quote on writing to be a model of opposites. I was just repeating something I'd noted before -- briefly.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Kate (kgast@indiana.edu) said:
Nope, I'm here as myself. I dislike thinking in opposites, but obviously there are others who pick up on that kind of thing, too.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Curious or should I say Kate,maybe?:I do not know the answer to your question ,but sounds like you might like that tape on the various personality type responses.Maybe not ,in fact probably not since anything I say will be opposed by a mismatch thinker.I say that with humour,no offence intended because both types are equally important.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Curious (Just@asking) said:
Aren't opposites just constructs of your ego, Silvia?

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
TO ALL: Hello and hope you are doing well. TO PHOOEY: You're right, we do not share the same sense of humor. Does it matter? No. (I think on this issue, we can agree.) TO BARRY: I've had my first chance to read some of your posts and find your personality to be quite charming. TO CHRIS: Best wishes to you on your brand new spiritual journey. I have some books that I finished reading and I would be happy to send them to you, free of charge. Please let me know. TO KITTY: Today was the first day I was able to see the Faries that you drew. They're very nice!

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
TO ALL: Hello and hope you are doing well. TO PHOOEY: You're right, we do not share the same sense of humor. Does it matter? No. (I think on this issue, we can agree.) TO BARRY: I've had my first chance to read some of your posts and find your personality to be quite charming. TO CHRIS: Best wishes to you on your brand new spiritual journey. I have some books that I finished reading and I would be happy to send them to you, free of charge. Please let me know. TO KITTY: Today was the first day I was able to see the Faries that you drew. They're very nice!

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Dolores (sgende@foreigner.class.udg.mx) said:
Hi Barry! Do you have an updated list of people that are going to AUGUST? Thanks.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Phooey& PhooeyNot:In the last post I read by you,you were questioning about if we believed and why.There are certain people who are on a mission to learn the truth , live life to the fullest and to understand the meaning of it and what lyes above and beyond it.Now I do not believe in space or time.I believe we are all focusing on one moment,one reality at a time therefore it seems to be moving in linear time.Anyways,when I heard of Deepak's work 3 years ago I felt excited to know that someone else had similar thoughts as I did.So for me,it was not a matter of throwing my other values away and hanging on his every word.I believe in Jesus,I like what Budha says I've read alot about alot,BUT this is THE DEEPAK CHOPRA FORUM,where I expect to share my feelings and thoughts about his work.I am tolerant of other peoples beliefs or non beliefs,but I must speak what I believe is my reality.If I am being to general,then I will not be so pressumptious.I naturally thought that people here were inclined towards A Deepak (for a lack of words)way of thinking.Since I know there are tons of other types of CHAT forums on every subject,I just assumed being ( the look for things in common personal;ity type ) that others were doing the same.I believe this could be a safe place for people(a santuary) in a world where it is not so common for people to believe in LOVE,PROSPERITY,ETERNAL LIFE & PERFECT HEALTH.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Kate:I'm so excited your response was equivalent to the one I heard on the tape last night which is generally considered the difference seeker,the one who responds with opposites.That tape was so cool!It's given me insight to enable me to understand people better and to not take responses personal.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Kate (Just@repetition) said:
We don't write in order to be understood; we write in order to understand.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
As I was rolling in Love last night.......My husband put one of his tapes in for our nightly inspiration this time(we take turns)His tape was by Anthony Robbins and it was fascinating.It was all about why people cannot always communicate effectively and why people argue and how to understand these diverse personalities and work with them.In short it went like this...There are different personality type responders,some look for things in common in what others say,some look for differences,mismatchers and matchers,each one is then broken down into two again.Each one makes up an important part in our living.Oh there are those that are mixed types too....so no matter what someone writes it is then going to be interpreted by each individual with their own unique experiences and personality type and not the way the thinker meant it.COLLETTE:again I liked your last post.JOSIE:I had fun at your house & you're such a nice hostess.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Kate (kgast@indiana.edu) said:
Word of the day: Dialogue, an exchange of ideas or opinions. This does seem difficult to achieve in this very place where it is supposed to be encouraged and accepted.

Phooey and Phooey-NOT -- I have read extensively since I was a child. It does not appeal to me -- I stress this is a personal opinion -- when any writer's works are "taken as gospel" (good old Midwestern term) and phrase parroted back like mantras for success of any kind. Since you have asked questions, this has occurred frequently, and often with defensiveness. It's as though posters here are not "allowed" to think any differently. I don't personally believe in immortality, freedom from all physical illness, etc. I believe Chopra, among others, lends some wisdom to how we might make our lives more acceptable to ourselves in a time and society which bombards us with ills so that we need safe havens within. I do not come to the forum for sanctuary. I do not speak for everyone else here, but in the past I enjoyed dialogue here with people whom I enjoy knowing. Thanks to both of you for good questions, no matter how phrased.

(Yeah, mb, I giggle at some things like that, too. And at food processors!)

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Dolores (sgende@foreigner.class.udg.mx) said:
Phil: Are you familiar with Jose Silva? You may want to try: The Silva Mind Control Method for Business Managers; Jose Silva, Robert B.,Phd Stone; Mass Market

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Kitty - 7:50 am MDT Colorado Springs (k_morel@msn.com) said:
Beth - Hi! It was probably not what you intended, but I'm giggling at the idea of Deepak being like a food processor. ;-)

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Dolores (sgende@foreigner.class.udg.mx) said:
"The highest form of wisdom is kindness."
Talmud

Have a GREAT day!
NAMASTE

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Peggy (Tennessee) (rushing1@ix.netcom.com) said:
From The Woman Who Married Herself

"The Wedding Vow'

On this day and in this place, I come in peace and sponteneity.

I choose courage, but I embrace my fear. I choose strength, but I accept my weakness. I choose the good, but smile in acknowledgement of my imperfections.

I embrace my mother, though she is imperfect, and in so doing, I become my own mother.

I release the children who were not born to me. And in that release, I affirm my womanhood. and shame is no more.

I choose poetry and song, silence and friendship. I choose both life and death. I choose each season in its time. I choose the moonlight, sunshine, candles, fireplaces, and enlightenment. I choose to love the darkness, for it is as an old friend. Now all parts of me are one. I am whole and unbound.

Footnote: The woman was seen a short time later on a park bench near a creek and a black willow tree. She was opening a present. It appeared to be a compass in a leather case.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Colette (colette@ets.com.au) said:
Dear Beth thank you for the copy of the Jack Kornfield book you sent me. It arrived today. Kitty thankyou for the fairies dancing. They are lovely as always. Hi to all!

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Colette (colette@ets.com.au) said:
Dear Phooey I choose to speak about meditation and the reality of the spirit Self known through it, here, because this is the Deepak Chopra Forum and that is his preferred methodology. I admire people who are fellow seekers who achieve success with other methods. I agree that there are many ways to get there. I am familiar with this way but I read many books stretching me in other ways. I just spent 100 dollars last weekend on books by other people. The money means nothing to me. I believe in abundance. I thirst for the knowledge of the Self and I pursue all the avenues my intuition leads me to to get there. They all interconnect.

People really, I believe, only follow their own paths - chosen by themselves. It seems to me that you are showing disrespect by not trusting others to make their decisions for themselves.

Really the path Deepak teaches us about is the path that leads you to know the higher Self and then follow it's guidance not his. Tune into your own genius, the full potential of who you are then follow your Self. Not his Self. Every place you are you chose. to be. But know your Self. Develop to your full potential.

Full potential I think means happiness, and perfect health, and creating a life of fulfilment for yourself. I began meditating before Deepak wrote his first book. I am here because my experiences validated what he was, and still is sharing.

He has been brave enough to offer his help to the world. Thankyou Deepak. You are abrave man. Money does not bring Self fulfilment Phooey. That's not his motivation. We have a planet to save. The man receives a lot of flak. A lot of egos attacking him that are really resisting and fighting themselves. He could easily retire and never work another day in his life. He doesn't have to stay and be a target.

I respect your ponderings Phooey. Trust your self. You are following your path to know your self. Just like we all are here. Maybe you can share the methodology you prefer with us.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
I listened to" A Path To Love" today with my sister Josie and it reminded me that we all need Love so much.Defending is draining Debates get tiresome,irritating boring and outrageous,I might add...hehe... and I'm just Pure Love.The more I believe it the less other peoples opinions will matter.The more I will Love myself and the less I will take actions to hurt myself directly and indirectly.What does it matter that Peggy or Les are not in agreement with me...I decided ,I'm gonna to roll in Love tonight.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Phil Toomire (p2mire@king.cts.com) said:
I want to share my appreciation of Deeepak Chopra writings, with the other forum friends, I've owned and operated several businesses over the past 30 years, and "The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success" by Deepak Chorea brings me new insights into how a business can be operated with God's direction.. Unfortunately, love, sharing, morality and spiritually and left outside in most employee or board meeting. I'd like to collaborate, with someone reading this message, on writing a book explaining through actual application, how our thought controls our every action and word spoken. We need to meditate before we speak or act. It only takes a moment to deliver peaceful results. I've looked in the religion, new age, business, and philosophy sections of bookstores, and haven't found a book relating a business operation with spiritual power and understanding. I already have a chapter on" Firing and Hiring with Love and Compassion".. I would appreciate an individual with a business operating background. Someone who can share their experiences with me, and add their comments to the book. All of my business activities have been spiritually motivated. If you feel like joining me on this quest, please contact me. I'm ready to make this happen. for now.......... p2mire@king.cts.com

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Ageless in Denver (Agemom@ix.netcom.com) said:

Greetings to All,
Hi Kitty! My mistake. In perserving my energy I failed to look up the word "imbibe". A total misunderstanding on my part.
Welcome to the new-comers. Hang in there it gets better and better.
Thanks Frank for your gratitude. It gives strength to the process.
Hi Peggy, thanks for the warning to scroll.

Wednesday's law in focus was The law of Least Effort.
This law states that when you feel frustrated or upset by a person or a situation, remember that you are not reacting to the person or the situation, but to your feelings about the person or the situation.
MAKE A COMMITMENT TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF NO RESISTANCE
RELINQUISH THE NEED TO DEFEND OUR POINT OF VIEW

Thursday's law in focus is The law of Intention and Desire
Let our actions express our Intent and Desire.
Namaste--5/7/97 at 11:10pm MST Let LOVE be our motive

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Phooey (Not@Impressed.Com) said:
Jeff & Bill: What concrete evidence do you have that "releasing your desires and intentions into the gap" is influencing your outcomes? How can you be certain there is a cause and effect? How do you know your life wouldn't be the same anyway? Have you ever had a desire manifest that wasn't released into the gap? How would you distinguish the difference, since you are supposed to consider that the outcome that occurs may not be the one intended (i.e. whatever happens is what was supposed to happen)?

Peggy: Asking us to scroll past that post is like asking us to ignore the plane crash in our front yard.

Phooey--NOT!: Are we related?

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Jeff (jeffhart@concentric.net) said:
mb, Thanks so much for treating us with your poetry. And Bill, I also practice releasing my desires and intentions into the gap, and it has changed my life and FAST! This "magic" has speeded my personal evolution, increased my knowledge of my Self, and increased my confidence in the power of our creative energy. Namaste, Jeff.

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, barry (barry@rsirentals.com) said:
HELLO Peggy :) It is WAY past my bed-time, but I sensed a shift in the goings on here and am glad to see that you have come out to play tonight. I am fading though . . . the wits are dulling. I wish for everyone a wonderful evening and an even better Thursday. NAMASTE'

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Beth (qi@worldnet.att.net) said:
I am not following Deepak. I do think that he has done an outstanding job of pulling together and packaging the thoughts of Indian/Eastern philosophy. I also enjoy his writing and speaking style. He has taught me so much and helped my shift my life from anger to one of compassion and kindness. (that shift is not yet completed) Another person that I really enjoy reading and has taught me a lot about myself is Kornfield with his Theravada Buddhist approach. However, without Deepak I don’t think I would have appreciated and understood Kornfield the way I am now (and I'm still only scratching the surface). For me Deepak is a tool just like my car or food processor are.

John Steward Mills wrote (sorry but this is paraphrasing since I don’t have his book here) that if you really want complete understanding of a position, then you must be able to argue against that position as skillfully as people who are actually against it. So, for me, all questing, is valuable for it makes me think and search my own beliefs. And so I say thank you Phooey and others who question. And to all a good-night. Namaste

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On Thursday, May 8, 1997, Peggy (Tennessee) (rushing1@ix.netcom.com) said:
Hi, PhooeyNot! Welcome to the forum! And you too Chris! (I just sent you a little email.)

PhooeyNot, I had an experience about fifteen years ago that was a giagantic shift in awareness. Maslow called these "peak experiences." A web search on that topic has proved interesting to me. At any rate, the shift was so overwhelming (and short-lived) that I have followed pathways (books, teachers, classes) that would help explain this experience to me. Deepak's books make sense of this experience. That's what brought me here.

Now if I could only learn to live by the Seven Spiritual Laws...

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, barry (barry@rsirentals.com) said:
Phooey - NOT: Thank you for your words. This may or may not apply to your question as to how to address the regular posters here . . . hmmmm . . . Often, when I think of something to say that I would like to address to ALL I move my context to the position of "we.' In this way, I am including myself in the observations rather than risking the innocent targeting of others' latant emotions . . . example: "Sometimes we get frustrated differentiating our NOW with the emotions that are welling up within us from our past or our expectations of future events. When we do this, we tend to blur the scenery causing intense frustration because we feel as if we have lost control . . . the picture simply becomes too large for us to fathom. We tend to lose sight of the notion that we are, in fact, only in control of our experiences and interpretations of what is going on around us in this moment."

This approach may seem to dilute things a bit, but it opens the door to conveying a FAR more powerful message without accidentally squashing toes. It works for me and helps me not get quite as attached to the outcomes (other people's responses) My friend, thank YOU for sharing here.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey--NOT! (Very@Concerned4U.com) said:
Dear Barry,

I'm sorry, I sure didn't mean to offend you by labelling you as a "follower" or anything else. I agree that labelling anybody is unfair. It was an innocent mistake. I was just looking for a easy, shoerthand way of addressing you all. What, if you wanted to refer to the whole group, would you call those that frequent this Forum?

Thanks for sharing part of your journey and your reasons for participating in thie Forum. It's clear to me from watching your posts that you do have an open mind and have in fact formed some wonderful friendships. I certainly agree that there are a LOT of warm, caring people here!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Chris (skylemon@ma.ultranet.com) said:
Hi, I am a 15 year old male, from Massachusetts (America). In this past month I have started building my own philosophy, and my own idea's on what 'god' is, and why & how we should live life. Today I recieved a copy of a Deepak Chopra tape from one of my friends (older person). It's the 'Ageless body, Timeless Mind' tape. Deepak Chopra's teachings are in acordance with my own, wich makes me very interested in his other books and teachings. This tape is helping me a lot, for self relization and awareness. I don't have much money, but I would like to get some more tapes or books from Deepak or another person with similar idea's. Another things is, part of my philosphy is to help yourself, and help others. I love helping others, but I get extremley frustrated when I try to help my mother. She does not listen to what I say, and she persicutes me for my actions in the middle of a conversation. I ask for someone to email me on how to help people out, and/or how to get books or tapes that are similar to Deepak Chopra's. Thank you very much for your time.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, barry (barry@rsirentals.com) said:
YO Phooeynot! I think you might be generalizing a bit too much. You have assumed that all of the people on this forum are Deepak Chopra "followers" and have spent large sums of money to "purchase" perfect health and inner peace and all of that. Speaking for myself only I can say that I do not fir the shoe that you you are ramming my foot into. I have bought ONE book written by Deepak Chopra and enjoyed it because it meshed well with several other things I have read recently. I landed on this forum purely by accident and found a warm bunch of folkswho seem to have a vast diversity. i was intrigued, so I have stuck around to develop some pretty powerful friendships. I have never seen Deepak in person nor on television (because I don't have one) I am "sure of" NOTHING . . . all I know for sure in each moment is that I am at the place that I have chosen to be for a reason. All of my "work" has been internal and this forum gives me the opportunity to grasp new thoughts and friends. I do not agree or believe in many things I see here . . . I rarely take issue with others as I learned long ago that what may not fit for me now might fit perfectly at some point in the future . . . my mind is open . . . I follow NO-ONE . . . my path is my own . . . gee I've bought several books by Thomas Moore . . . that heathen must have written all those books just to get my money . . . I'll see you guys later . . . I'm off to find the Thomas Moore Forum to warn them against the perils of falling into the follower trap. :)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
Hello to you too, Barry!

It just struck me as somewhat ironic that there were two posts, almost in a row, one asking if anyone here tried to put what Deepak says into practice, the other labeling people here as "Deepak followers". Personally, I read lots of books. I have my own philosophy, my own path. Much of what Deepak says fits it, and inspires me, as do Emerson, Thoreau, Dyer, Myss, Thich Nat Hahn(sp?), David Burns, B.K.S. Iyengar, Scott Adams, and many others. A few months ago many people posted their favorite books.

Hi Beth!!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Peggy (Tennessee) (rushing1@ix.netcom.com) said:
For those of you who come to this forum for sanctuary and spiritual encouragement, you may want to consider scrolling through this response.

Today Sylvia said the following on the forum: "Actually Peggy I think that you should post all of the email exchange to get it all in context. I tried but it would not accept your harsh words to me." In another post, she said, "Peggy had this email thing going with me cause she was obviously offended about me being frank..."

The following is the exchange which took place in email. It speaks for itself: It began with this post:

(Sylvia to Peggy): "Peggy, why do you not let Les answer for himself? Also, anyone who has to poison themselves at anytime with alcohol has a problem somewhere."

(Peggy to Silvia): "I am not keeping Les from answering for himself. I can't 'let' him do anything. It is his choice what he does just as it is my choice what I do. Do you have problems with someone defending a friend? I have never had to poison myself with alcohol. I have a drink maybe three or four times a year and I never have more than two at a time. I don't even have a drink on New Year's Eve. I never drive after having a drink. I've never missed work from having a hangover. I don't like the taste of beer or gin. I have been consistent in this pattern for over thirty years. (I'm almost 54 now.) I do not consider alcohol to be a poison and the AMA agrees with me. I do think that it is a dangerous drug in the hands of some people. A glass of wine is good for the heart and the digestion. I didn't say that I don't have problems. I just don't turn to alcohol to drown my sorrows. I do that with food! (You should see how large I am!)"

(Silvia to Peggy) "Give me a break Peggy, alcohol is poison, it intoxicates your brain and generally ruins peoples days or at least the doy or two after. The whole world can vouche for that. People who over drink and over eat and smoke are doing so because they desire to be comforted and loved. And by the way you sound like you are in elementary school with a comment like 'Do you have problems with someone defending a friend?' If you want Love ask for it."

(Peggy to Silvia): "Intoxication does not equal poison. Medication can intoxicate, but it is not considered poison unless taken in overdoses. Potatoes are loaded with arsenic but no one considers potatoes 'poison.' Alcohol doesn't ruin my day or the day after. I do not over drink. That's why I don't have a problem with it. You do not speak for 'the whole world.' I asked an honest question when I asked if you have problems with someone defending a friend. When I taught, I told my students that no questions are stupid. Some of us have been trying to coax Les back onto the forum for his own well-being. (And for our own delight in who he is.) We can either take this back out on the forum so that the issues can be dealt with openly or these messages can cease. The choice is up to you. The only other alternative is for us to share this exchange with others from the forum."

(From Silvia to Peggy): "Bring the discussion anywhere you desire. Just so you know toxins are poisons. And Les's insensitivity in the past helped me make the decission to leave the forum for a long time, and I'm back to stay. I think your assertive classes could be valuable all the way around. Night."

(From Peggy to Silvia): "Very well. The email exchanges that we have had will be forwarded in email to other people who are concerned or interested. What I believe about alcohol is not your concern. That doesn't mean that you don't have a right to express your opinion. It does mean that when you make statements that tell me what I must think (example: 'just as long as you know'), you are being aggressive, not assertive."

(From Silvia to Peggy): "Get a grip."

(This was the last post between us. Silvia sent it after I had asked her twice not to send me any more email.)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
Bill - Interesting question, I can only answer for myself. I definitely use some of Deepak's material (as I do of other teachers in my life). I now meditate, twice a day whenever I can. In fact, that's what I just finished. I do yoga regularly, (though not necessarily because of reading Deepak). I used to listen to one of the 7 laws each day, now I know them all and as much as possible put them in practice. I still try to focus on one each day as a reminder. I don't do much of the Ayurveda because I felt like it was complicated. Though I just read an answer to a related question to him. The answer he gave was: "It doesn't have to be time-consuming. It's the quality of the attention you pay to the recommendations that counts. You don't have to be a fanatic or obsess about them for them to work. "
Anyway, Bill, you say you've had tremendous success. Want to share any details or examples?

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, barry (barry@rsirentals.com) said:
Beth and all those concerned with the alcohol at AUGUST . . . the event is in the center of a state park . . . the inn does not serve ANY form of alcohol and allows it only behind closed doors . . . It should not be an issue at our event. . . . Oh . . . and HELLO!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey--NOT! (Very@Concerned4U) said:
Hi Everybody!

I've been reading these posts for a while, and I'm just a little concerned about whether some Deepak followers might be taken advantage of.

Do you all generally feel you're getting good value for the money you spend on Deepak's books and other merchandise? Do you really believe in immortality, freedom from illness, fulfillment of all your desires, and all the other things Deepak talks about? If so, what is it that causes you to believe?

I'm sure you're all bright people. I just wonder how and why you all seem to be so sure of all this.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Beth (qi@worldnet.att.net) said:
Just took a break from the archives, so I don't know if this topic has been covered. But here are my thoughts. - This is in response to Cam’scomments about alcohol at our AUGUST gathering. For me personally, I don’t need to drink during those 2 1/2 days. Not having my glass of wine at dinner is not a big deal. And I would rather have a dry get together so that we can also have Cam join us. For those people who do want a little something, they can always have their own cocktail hour before dinner while the rest of us go for a walk. Also, people are free to have what ever they want in their rooms. So, I would like to suggest, that if Cam, or any one else who needs our support, would come, that we not have alcohol at our total group gatherings. What is every one else’s thoughts. Now back to the archives. Namaste

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Bill (USA) (theeco@europa.com) said:
I'm curious, does anyone actually try to use Deepak's material or is this just a great place to come and gossip?

As for me, I've had tremendous success, (business, personal, spiritual, relationship, you name it) with this simple technique:

Slip into the GAP

Have the desire

Release your attachment to the outcome

and let the universe handle the details!

Simply elegant.

It's a question of purpose, action, intention, attention. It is possible to manifest your dreams. And, it takes cultivation. One cannot plant a crop in barren earth. But, cultivate, irrigate and so forth, what do you have? Harvest! This is what spiritual practice is about for me.

As my minister said recently: A man walked up to a farmer a sittin on his porch and said: "My, what a gift god has given you!" The farmer replied: "Yep. But, you should'a seen it when he had it all to himself."

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
Cyber Shaman - Ha, ha! I liked your analogy. ;-)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
I just got my first issue of the newsletter, "Deepak Chopra's Infinite Possibilities for Mind, Body, and Soul". The reason I mention this is because it has his upcoming schedule in it, and some people have asked about that. I was going to post it but need some quiet time. So if anyone wants details, e-mail me. Places he will be between now and November are: La Jolla, CA; Washington, D.C.; London, England; Calgary, Alberta, Canada; Asheville, NC; Rhinebeck, NY, Minneapolis, MN; New York, NY, Boston, MA. I remember someone was asking about England a while back, but don't remember who.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Cyber Shaman (lattaw@elwha.evergreen.edu) said:
Phooey: I am reading Emerson--just finished Self Reliance as a matter of fact. Coincidence? I think not... :-) Unfortunately, I find myself quoting him quite often. I agree with his statement that we shouldn't take our beliefs straight from someone else's mouth. But we do need to swallow them, digest them in order for them to nourish our bodies and minds with their nutrients. Unfortunately, the feast is so wonderful, that we can't help but have a little gas afterwards. So, when we quote someone else, I suppose it is sort of like burping. The highest compliment of a good meal.

(Excuse me if my bluntness offended anyone...hehehe)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey (Not@Impressed.Com) said:
Frank: "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." --Ralph Waldo Emerson

Yes, i see the irony.

Annemarie: One person's sarcasm is another's humor. Reference the great Les vs. Silvia debate. At who's expense did I make the statement you quoted? Do you really think I offended Deepak? If I offended you, just use Deepak's "we create our own reality" theory (repeated yet again by mb) and blame yourself. You are the fourth or fifth person to try to tell me how I should present my opinions. It's quite enjoyable. That's probably why I spend so much time here.

Cyber Shaman: "I know that I need to change my thinking on the inside before anything exterior will help."... That's the most profound statement I've seen here in quite some time. Thank you!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Tom G. (photog03@sprynet.com) said:
Cyber Shaman: Where did you hear about Deepak's CD ROM? There was a message on the forum last week to look back here today for a special offer but I haven't seen anything else on it.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
5:50 pm MDT Colorado Springs, USA

Thanks, Frank - I like that perspective

Wow, Brent - Hi! Long time no see!

Just as another break in the seriousness, here's a link that might be interesting to some people, especially of scientific mind: Magnetic Levitation. And for fun don't miss the link off that page labeled "the best of public presponse...".

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, The Cyber Shaman (lattaw@elwha.evergreen.edu) said:
Hello all. I've been busy for so long I haven't made time for the important things in life. But hopefully I can get myself together soon...

I was curious if anyone had tried out Deepak's new CD-ROM or heard any reviews. It looks interesting, but I'm not sure if I'm going to get it or not...I'm always looking for new toys and things to motivate me--thinking they will somehow make a difference. But I know that I need to change my thinking on the inside before anything exterior will help.

I also noticed I have come in a time of some disension (spelling?) among the ranks. What interesting times are these. Just remember all, that the eyes of truth are always watching you and that man (humankind) is the dream of the dolphin.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, frank (frankd@telusplanet.net) said:
Dale Carnagie wrote wisely "You can't win an arguement. You can't because if you lose it you lose it; and if you win it you lose it. Why? Well suppose you triumph over the other and shoot his arguements full of holes and prove that he is 'non compos mentis'. Then what? You will feel fine. But what about him? You have made him feel inferior. You have hurt his pride. He will resent your triumph. And : A MAN CONVINCED AGAINST HIS WILL IS OF THE SAME OPINION STILL." And then good old Ben Franklin "If you argue and rankle and contradict, you may achieve a victory sometimes; but it will be an empty victory because you will never get your opponent's goodwill." Just my twenty-five cents worth :) Frank

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (whew@home.resting) said:
Some more right brained stuff...

(\o/)   (\o/)  (\o/)      
(/|\)    <\    (/|\) 
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(Fairies, as Colette suggested.)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
Thank you, Kitty, for the info! I appreciate it very much.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty (k_morel@msn.com) said:
mb - Thanks, I was hoping you'd post a poem. I've been in a technical conference all day for the last 3 1/2 days and really need something more right-brained now ;-).

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kitty 5:05 pm MDT Colorado (k_morel@msn.com) said:
Annemarie - Here's information on the Global Network for Spiritual Success
P.O. Box 2611
La Jolla, CA 92038, USA,
phone 619-551-7111

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, mb (mbosi@erols.com) said:
...although i did laugh when reading the comment on buying merchandise to gain immortality. When they make Deepak Pez dispensors then they've gone too far (for me :)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, mb (mbosi@erols.com) said:
we love things for what they are
and hate them for what they do
engaged in constant action
we become all that we do

or at least we think it this way
and get lost within our minds
mirroring the Great Creation
unknown, create our lives

and i become the supreme judge
i create reality
and in a flash i am mistaken
i find life's joke on me

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, mb (mbosi@erols.com) said:
Greetings!!!!!
Wow, lot going on.
i realize in my life, that i do not hold a truth that others lack. My personal truths are true for me alone. You'd have to walk every step of my path in order to see them as i do, as i would have to to understand yours. Is there such a thing as greater thinking or higher thinking? I love your elephant story Beth. How can i know anything about you except as it relates to my interpretation of my perceptions? i think that i just react to an internal discussion with my perceptions. Not quite like "looking in a mirror", but internalizing the world as i see it, and as it relates to my past and my understanding. i see lots of anger here recently. That is because i interpret the meaning from this experience. Maybe you dont see that. i am the only one who lives with my interpretations, and only I have the power to either harm or help myself. If i view this place as a haven, then that's what it is for me. If i interpret it as a foolish waste of time then....
most of the time i do interpret this place as a gathering of incredible people on similar paths through the self. When i am open, i see the lessons that are needed at a particular point and time in my life. The lessons are not necessarily, concretly "there", i make them appear as i draw what is needed at a time to myself. When i see something that bothers me here, i look inside, and recognize that i am seeing it because i know it as well as myself. My ability to recognize is my ability to look into my past and see a quality which was experienced. Or the foresight to build upon all past experience to look in the direction of an outcome.
One dissolutiuon of conflict, for me, is the realization that we are ALL in the same boat. It is a Very short stay on this planet, and we all end up at the same outcome. No one is immune from life here. Time is too short in only one lifetime for me to look for conflict. We join here in a celebration of life. Who knows how long this will last? i would offer a hand to all in the celebration of the self. Not My self. The people here, and the thoughts presented are a gift. Everyone here is an incredible expression of life. Who would be the benefactor of an experience of everyone's uniqueness (and commonality) and magnificance? i would drop my arms. there's nothing to defend against here. You'll find it all. The most arrogant and the most respectful. Only when my eyes are distracted do i see these as opposites. It is a gift of life that i sit here and take part of this experience. The fact that i am at all is awe inspiring.
Namaste.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
To Dr. Joe Hayes: Thank you for your response. I am interested in the newsletter. I do I go about getting on the mailing lists? Also, I'm curious about the "spiritual issues" you mentioned in your other post.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
To Phooey: In response to your presenting an "alternate point of view" -- I congratulate you. However, I fail to see why you find it necessary to make your point in such a sarcastic fashion (e.g. "...puts you on the mailing list for Deepak's merchandise which you must buy in order to become immortal."). Surely, you could convey any alternate viewpoint without doing it at another's expense. After reading a variety of your posts, Its easy to see that you enjoy being contrary for the sole purpose of being contrary. So go ahead and be contrary (someone got to do it). In the meantime, I'll just send Light, Love and Harmony your way!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Dr Joe Hayes (jhayesdo@aol.com) said:
I've just finished listening to some tapes by Caroline Myss called Spiritual Madness that addresses many of the issues that spiritual people, especially those of a mystical sort, struggle with. Many of the issues we've struggled with here are addressed and I think there are many here who would enjoy the tapes.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Dr Joe Hayes (jhayesdo@aol.com) said:
Annemarie: The Global Network for Spiritual Success is an orginization begun by Deepak as a way of connecting people who are pursuing a spiritual path. My experience of it has been of people from all over the world who appear to be individuals who are familiar with Deepak's work but who all have their own very unique spiritual path. Some people have started discussion groups around some of Deepak's books, but also around other spiritually oriented books. There is a newsletter that is, right now, published quarterly. One of Deepak's hopes is that as the network grows people can designate whether they are willing to receive guests and people in the network can find a place to stay with other network members when travelling. As I said Deepak has set up the network so that it will never make a penny of profit.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kate (signing@off) said:
Motivation is the nub of what might have been a dialogue here. Chopra's motivation was worthy, but has become suspect to some because of the marketing/media hype. It's the age-old "ends-means" conundrum, as Scott noted also.

Phooey, it don't get more vivid than this, huh!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kate (almost@endofday) said:
TerryO, I see you dilemma, but am not sure where you're headed. The growing disparity is creating a lot of problems, agreed? But what is the 1% shift you talk about? Are you saying you could help more by charging for your services? That would be OK, I think (in my opinion only) because I would never question your motivation. Am I getting your drift?

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey (Not@Impressed.Com) said:
Silvia and Annemarie: I already explained why I am here....to present an alternative point of view. What you do with it is your responsibility. I have no more power to save you from yourself than Deepak does. If it will help people to stop questioning my motivation and showing me the door, maybe you can pretend I'm a Chopra worshipper that is just playing devil's advocate. My experience has been that people learn more from a balanced discussion as opposed to a one-sided discussion. You can be the judge as to whether or not the discussion has become more "vivid" lately. By the way, Silvia, are you sure you know what the majority of people here believe? That's a pretty unique talent! Does Deepak teach that too?

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Terry O (USA) (plane@fn.net) said:
3:45 pm CDT Wichita, Kansas
I too, go round and round with this "pie in the sky" stuff, when it comes to affluence, etc.
I have been "giving" a way of life (AA) to those who want it, for a number of years. I find fulfillment in doing so. It is a way of expressing love.
It is all I want to do with the rest of my life, and my dilemma is, as it was so freely given to me, how can I "charge" for passing it on.
Which brings me to where I was headed:
I've struggled with this question for some time, even talked to Dr. Hayes about it.
If this 1% "shift" happens, it's only going to happen in the 10% of the population that has the time ,money, where-withal, to persue their own self-centered choices anyway.
I'm not trying to be an a-hole about this; Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about.
There are 1,000,000 (one million) citizens behind bars. A very "captive" audience. 7,000 in my state alone. What are we doing to teach them anything like what we talk about here.
How can they even become aware "discussions" as we have here? These "outlets"!
At least in my state, 85-90 % of these folks WILL return to society.
Do you see how this fits into the question(s) of the growing disparity between the haves and have-nots?
Now, does anyone make any sense (cents) out of this???
Namaste'

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kate (kgast@indiana.edu) said:
Scott, BTW, now that we've agreed (that feels good to say), please refresh my memory. I know you're going to Univ. of Chicago, my neck-of-the-woods, and that you're going to study to be a teacher, right? Fill in more spaces--what specialty area, if any? I've heard the University is not in a very good neighborhood, but Chicago on the whole is a terrific place for all kinds of things like museums, theatre, music. Hope you'll enjoy!

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Kate (kgast@indiana.edu) said:
I'm too far from high school to know what a "cat tactic" is, but if you continue to castigate Phooey, Les, and others, then go about name-calling, Silvia, I fear your credibility may be questioned. That is an observation on my part.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Dave Delamotte (MUSTANG_COBRA@msn.com) said:
Hello Everyone, including sceptics, I'm new to Dr. Chora. I know what cave have I been in. I've seen some of his TV broadcasts. Today I got a mailer about a program entitled THE WISDOM WITHIN on CD ROM and am trying to get a copy ASAP. I called an 800 # but they said it takes tree weeks in the mail. Can anyone help me with a faster source. Thanks all.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Before I leave the forum I am scrolling the posts and my ego still can't get over the high school cat tactics are still use to attempt to wound people.Peggy had this email thing going with me cause she was obviously offended about me being frank about not appreciating Les yesterday,then she gets hissed out cause I don't agree,then like some high schooler paints graphity on the forum walls"Don't email me anymore" or "Come see what Silvia emailed me",The only word that comes to mind is NUTCAKE...Then my spirit wants to rise above it and realize it is a complete misconception and Love is paramount and that matters.I can't believe my mind actually created all this.I gotta go take a sunny day.Bye Annemarie.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
Silvia: I'm from the state of New Jersey, U.S.A. I've been reading Dr. Chopra's work for approximately a year and was introduced to his books by an insightful person in a bookstore. I also have an audio cassette with Dr. Chopra speaking with Dr. Wayne Dyer. Are you familiar with him?

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
Silvia: Thank you. I hope Peggy and you can reach a mutual understanding as well as mutual forgiveness. (I don't know the details of what took place between the both of you; however, I remain optimistic that happy outcome can be reached.)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Annemarie:Where abouts are you from?I'm from Vancouver Canada.How did you get introduced to Deepak's work?

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Annemarie (lawtemp@attmail.com) said:
Phooey: You give me the impression that you are not fond of the teachings of Dr. Chopra or whatever services the Global Network provides. Why is it that you spend so much time at this web site? Where's the enjoyment for you? (Just wondering...)

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Silvia (silvia@wizard-works.com) said:
Phooey:after reading your post,I can see that you care for people and do not want them to be taken advantage of.But the majority of the people who are at this forum believe in infinate possibilities,one of those being perfect heath,another immortality .If this is the reality that we have chosen which is previlant here,If you do not like Deepak Chopra or his financial philosophy,nobody is containing you to it.Are you here to save us from ourselves?Collette's methodology as you call it, is one of the enjoyable parts for me at the forum.Annemarie;what has happened yesterday is a good example of what you were asking about in an earlier post about negativity.I know you are new and I hope you do not get discouraged anyone's bad day cause I enjoy your presence here.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey (Not@Impressed) said:
Oh, it also puts you on the mailing list for Deepak's merchandise which you must buy in order to become immortal.

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On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Phooey (Not@Impressed) said:
Annemarie: It's called "The Global Network for Spiritual Success". If you join it and don't become spiritually successful, there's obviously something wrong with you. If you don't join, you won't be successful.

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