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AnneYes, we indeed are all kin, as you so gently pointed out...still, certainly there are similarities in our personalities or differences that have all kinds of interesting results! And your humor has a similar flavor to Geoff's...interesting to wonder about differences in a similar "trait"--there are various flavors of humor...the wherefores and the whys...Regarding being a "victim" of violence...I had a string of weird events transpire in my life when I was younger...and each had potential for bad things to happen...yet each one I emerged from unscathed...I did not bless my "almost" offenders ;-) but I was always calm (actually the events seemed almost surreal), and just unbelieving that anything was really going to happen...in retrospect, I felt as if I had been learning to "trust" that I was "safe" or to put my trust more fully in God...who knows? But nothing similar has occurred in many a year :-) Hmmm...Enjoying Ken Wilbur's "A Brief History of Everything"--good stuff...nothing new. I also think that Deepak is doing what he does out of an interest in helping humanity...of course, how can I know, but the fact that he has so much going on when he could be less involved and happily enjoying his wealth, makes me think that sincere interest motivates him...seems pretty wise to me too...from my perspective :-)Peace all!Cathy
Yes, we indeed are all kin, as you so gently pointed out...still, certainly there are similarities in our personalities or differences that have all kinds of interesting results! And your humor has a similar flavor to Geoff's...interesting to wonder about differences in a similar "trait"--there are various flavors of humor...the wherefores and the whys...
Regarding being a "victim" of violence...I had a string of weird events transpire in my life when I was younger...and each had potential for bad things to happen...yet each one I emerged from unscathed...I did not bless my "almost" offenders ;-) but I was always calm (actually the events seemed almost surreal), and just unbelieving that anything was really going to happen...in retrospect, I felt as if I had been learning to "trust" that I was "safe" or to put my trust more fully in God...who knows? But nothing similar has occurred in many a year :-) Hmmm...
Enjoying Ken Wilbur's "A Brief History of Everything"--good stuff...nothing new.
I also think that Deepak is doing what he does out of an interest in helping humanity...of course, how can I know, but the fact that he has so much going on when he could be less involved and happily enjoying his wealth, makes me think that sincere interest motivates him...seems pretty wise to me too...from my perspective :-)
Peace all!
Cathy
Of course, full enlightenment is reached only after a billion points. This provision is made to handicap those of the British persuasion where a billion is considerably larger than in the U.S. Lennie, that was really sweet of you to say those things but are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? ;-) Anne, you are a riot! So dry! So caustic! So...well..._________!!! :-D
Lennie, that was really sweet of you to say those things but are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? ;-)
Anne, you are a riot! So dry! So caustic! So...well..._________!!! :-D
Dick, maybe you need to reevaluate the path you have taken to reach enlightenment. I am developing a point system that may help. Keep in mind that this in a work in progress and contributions will be given a fair evaluation and then dismissed. Give seminars on enlightenment: +100 points Make the seminars available only to those with a higher than average income: -100 points Offer fellowships to those who can't afford seminars: +50 points Don't respond to letters requesting info on these fellowships: -100 Answer questions for newcomers at the forum: +25 points Give the wrong answers: -3 points Cooperate in the establishment of a forum for the discussion of your books and ideas: +50 Don't participate personally in that forum after saying that you will: -100 points Advocate non-defensiveness: +10 points File a lawsuit for libel: -50 points Advocate non-judgment: +20 points Judge non-judgment: -50 points Exercise non-judgment: -75 points Say that you exercise non-judgment: -100 points Go within: +100 points Go within and stay there so that you won't have to acknowledge that people should not starve to death: -200 points Have self-esteem: +100 points Be pleased with your self-esteem: -200 points Teach: +50 points Learn: +150 points Play Donkey Kong: +10 points Make it to level 8 in Donkey Kong: -15 points Post things like this at the Deepak Chopra Forum: GAME OVER!
Give seminars on enlightenment: +100 points
Make the seminars available only to those with a higher than average income: -100 points
Offer fellowships to those who can't afford seminars: +50 points
Don't respond to letters requesting info on these fellowships: -100
Answer questions for newcomers at the forum: +25 points
Give the wrong answers: -3 points
Cooperate in the establishment of a forum for the discussion of your books and ideas: +50
Don't participate personally in that forum after saying that you will: -100 points
Advocate non-defensiveness: +10 points
File a lawsuit for libel: -50 points
Advocate non-judgment: +20 points
Judge non-judgment: -50 points
Exercise non-judgment: -75 points
Say that you exercise non-judgment: -100 points
Go within: +100 points
Go within and stay there so that you won't have to acknowledge that people should not starve to death: -200 points
Have self-esteem: +100 points
Be pleased with your self-esteem: -200 points
Teach: +50 points
Learn: +150 points
Play Donkey Kong: +10 points
Make it to level 8 in Donkey Kong: -15 points
Post things like this at the Deepak Chopra Forum: GAME OVER!
I'm your top prime cut of meat, I'm your choice, I wanna be elected, I'm your yankee doodle dandy in a gold Rolls Royce, I wanna be elected, Kids want a saviour, don't need a fake, I wanna be elected, We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make, I wanna be elected, elected, elected. I never lied to you, I've always been cool, I wanna be elected, I gotta get the vote, and I told you 'bout school, I wanna be elected, elected, elected, Hallelujah, I wanna be selected, Everyone in the United States of America. We're gonna win this one, take the country by storm, We're gonna be elected, You and me together, young and strong, We're gonna be elected, elected, elected, Respected, selected, call collected, I wanna be elected, elected. "And if I am elected I promise the formation of a new party A third party, the Wild Party! I know we have problems, We got problems right here in Central City, We have problems on the North, South, East and West, New York City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, Everybody has problems, And personally, I don't care."
I never lied to you, I've always been cool, I wanna be elected, I gotta get the vote, and I told you 'bout school, I wanna be elected, elected, elected, Hallelujah, I wanna be selected, Everyone in the United States of America.
We're gonna win this one, take the country by storm, We're gonna be elected, You and me together, young and strong, We're gonna be elected, elected, elected, Respected, selected, call collected, I wanna be elected, elected.
"And if I am elected I promise the formation of a new party A third party, the Wild Party! I know we have problems, We got problems right here in Central City, We have problems on the North, South, East and West, New York City, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, Everybody has problems, And personally, I don't care."
besides, i know 9 spiritual laws of success. that's 2 more than deepak! it's just that there aren't enough day in the week to practice them all. if you figure that one out, well, hat's off to ya!
it's just that there aren't enough day in the week to practice them all. if you figure that one out, well, hat's off to ya!
my spirit is already soaring bob as i've already reached donkey kong level 8. NOW who's the student? stick around, maybe i'll teach you some more
Peggy, Thanks for the 'warning'. :) Actually, I am already having loads of fun reading the archives of this place - there's some wonderful stuff here. Yet, in the 'normal' course of events, the past 50 or 100 seem to be the only ones under 'active' consideration. Thanks to ALL who have contributed over the years. Maybe the best could be made into a book or something. Though my mind is still boggling as to how one decides on the 'best' if one makes no comparisons! Thanks Geoff, I was confused enough before you posted that little bit of 'advice'. :) Anyhow, congrats on being 'present' enough to say 'God bless you' in a situation like that. I often try to imagine what I would do or how i would react in those circumstances. But without 'being there' you never can be sure. I once listened to Gary Zukav speak about spiritual growth. He said that once you make the decision to challenge some aspect of yourself such as worry or anger or blame then the wise, compassionate universe will start tossing 'stuff' at you so you can gauge whether that aspect of your self has truly changed. He has an excellent website at www.zukav.com which is well worth a visit or two. Personally, I'm too busy and fascinated reading the 'stuff' here. :) Funny thing is, the first time I saw him I thought he doesn't look like much of a 'guru'. I had this stereotypical image in my head of the radiantly joyous face of the Dalai Lama. Along this same general theme, a friend of mine once told me that the Chinese symbol for 'crisis' is the same as their symbol for 'opportunity'. I know myself that since I started really getting into this stuff, there have been many occasions where I have transformed my experience of a situation by changing the way I had been conditioned to looking at it. I am taking Geoff's wisdom to heart. The bits about nonjudgement and comparisons. So, in all honesty, I can say that you would have to be the most ______ _______ it has ever been my ______ to encounter. The same sentiment applies equally to ______ and _______ and of course to ________ . :) It can be an interesting exercise 'filling in the blanks'. People naturally ASSUME that a blank is something 'bad' because if it were something 'nice' then we wouldn't censor it. :) One final thought. My favourite Gandhi quote is: "Be the change you would most like to see in the world." Cheers.
Thanks for the 'warning'. :) Actually, I am already having loads of fun reading the archives of this place - there's some wonderful stuff here. Yet, in the 'normal' course of events, the past 50 or 100 seem to be the only ones under 'active' consideration. Thanks to ALL who have contributed over the years. Maybe the best could be made into a book or something. Though my mind is still boggling as to how one decides on the 'best' if one makes no comparisons! Thanks Geoff, I was confused enough before you posted that little bit of 'advice'. :)
Anyhow, congrats on being 'present' enough to say 'God bless you' in a situation like that. I often try to imagine what I would do or how i would react in those circumstances. But without 'being there' you never can be sure.
I once listened to Gary Zukav speak about spiritual growth. He said that once you make the decision to challenge some aspect of yourself such as worry or anger or blame then the wise, compassionate universe will start tossing 'stuff' at you so you can gauge whether that aspect of your self has truly changed. He has an excellent website at www.zukav.com which is well worth a visit or two. Personally, I'm too busy and fascinated reading the 'stuff' here. :)
Funny thing is, the first time I saw him I thought he doesn't look like much of a 'guru'. I had this stereotypical image in my head of the radiantly joyous face of the Dalai Lama.
Along this same general theme, a friend of mine once told me that the Chinese symbol for 'crisis' is the same as their symbol for 'opportunity'. I know myself that since I started really getting into this stuff, there have been many occasions where I have transformed my experience of a situation by changing the way I had been conditioned to looking at it.
I am taking Geoff's wisdom to heart. The bits about nonjudgement and comparisons. So, in all honesty, I can say that you would have to be the most ______ _______ it has ever been my ______ to encounter.
The same sentiment applies equally to ______ and _______ and of course to ________ .
:)
It can be an interesting exercise 'filling in the blanks'. People naturally ASSUME that a blank is something 'bad' because if it were something 'nice' then we wouldn't censor it. :)
One final thought. My favourite Gandhi quote is:
"Be the change you would most like to see in the world."
Cheers.
Cathy, as you probably realised my tongue was firmly in my cheek. It is possible that Geoff is already 'channeling' himself through others. I feel there is a little bit of Geoff in each of us. Perhaps I should rephrase that. :-) Actually I am quite happily married (sorry Geoff - if you're still 'out there'). Your question about 'kin' got me thinking. Aren't we all 'kin' really. Whenever somebody uses the expression 'kindred spirit', I think what they really mean is 'kindred personality'. Most of our interactions on a daily basis tend to be on the level of the ego & personality and we may come to think that is 'all there is' to another human being. All 'conflict' exists only at this level. I often find it useful to remind myself that we are all (of) the same spirit regardless of the often enormous variations in personality, beliefs and behaviour. I don't know if a sense of humour is actually 'inherited'. Take my family ... please. :) I love them all but they are all excruciatingly normal. I read somewhere that any ability you have in this life is the result of karma from previous incarnations. One more incentive to treat people nice. As if we need further incentive. Cheers. "And they all lived happily ever after in a little village just outside of Wedlock." - Anon
Actually I am quite happily married (sorry Geoff - if you're still 'out there'). Your question about 'kin' got me thinking. Aren't we all 'kin' really. Whenever somebody uses the expression 'kindred spirit', I think what they really mean is 'kindred personality'. Most of our interactions on a daily basis tend to be on the level of the ego & personality and we may come to think that is 'all there is' to another human being. All 'conflict' exists only at this level. I often find it useful to remind myself that we are all (of) the same spirit regardless of the often enormous variations in personality, beliefs and behaviour.
I don't know if a sense of humour is actually 'inherited'. Take my family ... please. :) I love them all but they are all excruciatingly normal. I read somewhere that any ability you have in this life is the result of karma from previous incarnations. One more incentive to treat people nice. As if we need further incentive.
"And they all lived happily ever after in a little village just outside of Wedlock." - Anon
Dick Skep - When you are ready, the teacher will appear. There is a reason you are here at this Forum having fun with us, it is no coincidence and nothing happens by chance. Heavens forbid, your Spirit might be starting to want to wake up!Namaste'
Namaste'
i just wanna be one eighth as enlightened as y'all
really, i don't think he could be even two thirds as enlightened as less than half of us put together. at the very most
at the very most
Deepak is more enlightened than most of us put together??? that's just silly talk! no. i prefer the truth
Peggy, I would like to thank you in the way that you reply to some of the people searching here.You have a nack for not coming on so strong as to let folks know you would like to help in answening their questions ,not to come on so strong that you have all the answers ,and that there are many answers to any one question or inquiry!I hope this comes out the way I meant for it to , there is a gentleness in your answers, thats nice and refreshing.
This is a great time of year to do a little judgment judgment. This is the thing -- try to find even one leaf that has not fallen in the exact perfect spot. On the subject of crazy like a Buddha, ever see Being There with Peter Sellers? Pure delight.
This is a great time of year to do a little judgment judgment. This is the thing -- try to find even one leaf that has not fallen in the exact perfect spot.
On the subject of crazy like a Buddha, ever see Being There with Peter Sellers? Pure delight.
Dear Deepak, I've read in your books that one has to find their Dharma. How exactly do I do this? And if I do find Dharma, Do I have to marry her after only knowing her a couple of hours or does that just apply to people named Greg?
TO - Another quote along the same lines"Enlightenment is not what you think...It's what you don't think."Namaste
"Enlightenment is not what you think...
It's what you don't think."
Namaste
Bob F when Geoff was doing his latest postings I was going to post "OK Geoff-------you're crazy"..................but I won't do that. ("crazy" like a fox!)
("crazy" like a fox!)
TO - Very well put. It reminds me of an often used quote that is normally meant as derrogatory. People will say "He has lost his mind" or "She is out of her mind". I just smile.Namaste' dear friend.
Namaste' dear friend.
Dick Step - I prefer to think of it as Deepak telling the masses that he has a universal message, then telling them the message and then telling them what he told them. We are dealing with a general population that is so heavily bound up in past environmental conditioning that you have to keep telling them anything that is different to even get them to pay attention.Believe me - Deepak is doing all of this for everone else's benefit, not his own - it is his darhma. He has more than enough money to retire and never work for several lifetimes and is more enlightened than most of us put together.Is you glass always half empty?Namaste,
Believe me - Deepak is doing all of this for everone else's benefit, not his own - it is his darhma. He has more than enough money to retire and never work for several lifetimes and is more enlightened than most of us put together.
Is you glass always half empty?
Namaste,
In a way it's a "death", the death of the ego, and possibly what they mean when they say that is that their society is more conducive to the (quote) practices.
Bob F I agree with the Hindu's in this respect."Enlightenment" is out of our minds
"Enlightenment" is out of our minds
so what are you saying, dick, it's better to tell people things that make them feel bad?
For an in-depth version of the meaning of Namaste', read THIS ARTICLE (Click Here) This is the same link that was posted right after your question, Curious.Maybe it wasn't clear that it was a link.Namaste'
This is the same link that was posted right after your question, Curious.
Maybe it wasn't clear that it was a link.
deepak doesn't walk the talkhis "participation" in the HTKG site is nothing more than a vehicle to advertise his book. almost everyone "response" to a question ends with a pitch for reading this or that chapter of his book. not too sincere sounding. telling the audience what they want to hear so they feel good, it's the oldest trick in the book, just ask P.T Barnum
his "participation" in the HTKG site is nothing more than a vehicle to advertise his book. almost everyone "response" to a question ends with a pitch for reading this or that chapter of his book. not too sincere sounding.
telling the audience what they want to hear so they feel good, it's the oldest trick in the book, just ask P.T Barnum
Goodnight all. This Spirit wants to watch this body get some much needed rest.
Peggy – It looks like while I was composing, you were posting and we both took a crack at helping Curious. Anyway, your response to the robbers is commendable and shows you were coming from spirit. Who knows, it may have been what kept the robber(s) from doing more harm than just taking your purse. Deepak had a similar experience and was completely unharmed as well. His take on it was if you come from spirit and love rather than hate and fear, no harm will come to you regardless.Curious - Jeff defined Namaste’ pretty well but let me take a crack at it from a slightly different angle. We are all “mind”, “body” and “spirit” but “spirit” is our true essence. Our Spirit is immortal (always was and always will be) while our current body and mind are the temporary domicile of Spirit and they have a beginning, a middle and an end. Taking it one step further, in the purest sense, your Spirit and my Spirit are one and the same though it takes us a while (sometimes many lifetimes) to recognize this. In essence, we are all one and the same and we are all GOD.Consequently, the saying Namaste’ means that I recognize your Spirit in you and when you are coming from your Spirit and I am coming from my Spirit, we are one and the same.Yes, Deepak was raised in India in an affluent family and as a Hindu. His father was/is a surgeon and Deepak is a medical doctor as well and was educated in the US.Fred - Stick around, you will get more discussion on awareness, consciousness, enlightenment and How to Know God than you bargained for.Namaste’
Curious - Jeff defined Namaste’ pretty well but let me take a crack at it from a slightly different angle. We are all “mind”, “body” and “spirit” but “spirit” is our true essence. Our Spirit is immortal (always was and always will be) while our current body and mind are the temporary domicile of Spirit and they have a beginning, a middle and an end. Taking it one step further, in the purest sense, your Spirit and my Spirit are one and the same though it takes us a while (sometimes many lifetimes) to recognize this. In essence, we are all one and the same and we are all GOD.
Consequently, the saying Namaste’ means that I recognize your Spirit in you and when you are coming from your Spirit and I am coming from my Spirit, we are one and the same.
Yes, Deepak was raised in India in an affluent family and as a Hindu. His father was/is a surgeon and Deepak is a medical doctor as well and was educated in the US.
Fred - Stick around, you will get more discussion on awareness, consciousness, enlightenment and How to Know God than you bargained for.
Namaste’
Curious, I'm not sure that I have the answers but I will give it a shot. "Namaste" is a greeting which means I bow to thee. And that just means that the person saying "Namaste" acknowledges that the other person is sacred. It is used instead of "hello" and "goodbye." I don't know why the palms are brought together. Maybe originally that was a way of showing that the hands carried no weapons. That's just a guess. A bow, however slight, can be a sign of respect or submission. People aren't the only animals to use it. By the way, the first syllable of namaste is pronounced "nah" (rhymes with Ma)instead of "naw" (which sounds like gnaw). I still like the other definition better though! :-) This forum does not promote any one belief or religion in particular. It is as varied as the individuals who post here. I don't know what Dr. Chopra's religious background is but his books are about being spiritual (as opposed to religious). To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Chopra has posted here only once and that was years ago. Namaste :-)
"Namaste" is a greeting which means I bow to thee. And that just means that the person saying "Namaste" acknowledges that the other person is sacred. It is used instead of "hello" and "goodbye." I don't know why the palms are brought together. Maybe originally that was a way of showing that the hands carried no weapons. That's just a guess. A bow, however slight, can be a sign of respect or submission. People aren't the only animals to use it.
By the way, the first syllable of namaste is pronounced "nah" (rhymes with Ma)instead of "naw" (which sounds like gnaw).
I still like the other definition better though! :-)
This forum does not promote any one belief or religion in particular. It is as varied as the individuals who post here.
I don't know what Dr. Chopra's religious background is but his books are about being spiritual (as opposed to religious).
To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Chopra has posted here only once and that was years ago.
Namaste :-)
Good evening to all. This is my first experience with a forum so please be patient with my protocol, should it not be proper from the beginning. I have recently begun my "Quest" and in the process I am looking for a forum in which to discuss the teachings persented by Dr. Chopra. I am currently reading "How to Know God" and I am finding the concepts contained in the book extremely fascinating and refreshing. I would like to hear from others who have read the book and perhaps open up further discussion on the topic of finding God and how the teachings can be carried over to our everyday life. Thank you for the opportunity. Peace.
Thanks for the response but I am still not clear on what is the meaning of 'Namaste'. Long while ago, an Indian friend in my neighbourhood used to say it on phone but I never brought myself up to asking him what does it mean and what is it's significance. As he was a Hindu, I assume this forum is promoting the ideology of the world's this most ancient religion (since the word Namaste appears here frequently). Can someone please put it for me in a layman's language as to what is the significance of calling each other 'Namaste' and while doing so, joining both hands (similar to asking an apology) instead of a handshake. Further, is the highly respected Dr. Chopra a Hindu? Thanks
Kitty, what is a Deepak Chopra? Sounds like a deep heat treatment for chakras. ;-) It's good to see you. Bob F., I was one of the many who called the TODAY show and complained when Deepak Chopra was cancelled because he was too highbrow. The person that I talked with said that they had had many, many calls and that he felt certain that the interview would be rescheduled. Do you know if it ever was? BTW, when I was robbed at gunpoint last June, my parting words to the man were, "God bless you." It just seemed to come automatically. Wish I could always be that way. And I never got angry about it. (I broke out in a rash and had an asthma attack, but no anger!):-) One of the things that makes some jokes funny is that bit of truth (or perceived truth) that is usually at the core. Maybe that's why racial or sexist jokes aren't funny to some but are to others. Some perceive an element of truth and some see the joke as just a perpetuation of a stereotype. Guess it depends on what you are sensitive to.
Bob F., I was one of the many who called the TODAY show and complained when Deepak Chopra was cancelled because he was too highbrow. The person that I talked with said that they had had many, many calls and that he felt certain that the interview would be rescheduled. Do you know if it ever was?
BTW, when I was robbed at gunpoint last June, my parting words to the man were, "God bless you." It just seemed to come automatically. Wish I could always be that way. And I never got angry about it. (I broke out in a rash and had an asthma attack, but no anger!):-)
One of the things that makes some jokes funny is that bit of truth (or perceived truth) that is usually at the core. Maybe that's why racial or sexist jokes aren't funny to some but are to others. Some perceive an element of truth and some see the joke as just a perpetuation of a stereotype. Guess it depends on what you are sensitive to.
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